Mel Gibson revealed that he lost his Malibu home in the Los Angeles wildfires while he was in Austin to record a podcast interview with Joe Rogan.

In a telephone interview on NewsNation’s Elizabeth Vargas Reports, the Mad Max actor tried to remain upbeat as he spoke at length about the “devastating” feeling of losing the home he had lived in for 14 to 15 years. “Obviously, it’s kind of devastating. It’s emotional,” Gibson said to host Elizabeth Vargas. “You live there for a long time, and you had all your stuff. You remember George Carlin talking about your stuff? I had my stuff there, and it’s all like, I’ve been relieved from the burden of my stuff, because it’s all in cinders.”